Comments on: What’s in a Language Name? http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/ About the Delphi programming language, tools, news and community Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:46:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Azarien http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-734 Azarien Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:23:25 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-734 Delphi is an IDE, a library and a compiler of Object Pascal. There are Pascal and Object Pascal compilers other than Delphi. But there are no Delphi compilers other than Borland/Inprise/Borland/CodeGear/Abracadabra or whatever they are called now. In fact, they would sue you if you start selling your own Pascal compiler and you named it Delphi. Delphi is an IDE, a library and a compiler of Object Pascal. There are Pascal and Object Pascal compilers other than Delphi.
But there are no Delphi compilers other than Borland/Inprise/Borland/CodeGear/Abracadabra or whatever they are called now.
In fact, they would sue you if you start selling your own Pascal compiler and you named it Delphi.

]]> By: RRR http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-459 RRR Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:00:44 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-459 Delphi IS Object Pascal. It's a version of Object Pascal. Calling Delphi just "Object Pascal" is sort of like calling Viper just "Dodge". Not fundamentally wrong, but NOT ACCURATE. Delphi IS Object Pascal. It’s a version of Object Pascal.
Calling Delphi just “Object Pascal” is sort of like calling Viper just “Dodge”. Not fundamentally wrong, but NOT ACCURATE.

]]> By: Jim McKeeth http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-450 Jim McKeeth Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:56:50 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-450 A lot more votes, but "Delphi" is still in the lead. A lot more votes, but “Delphi” is still in the lead.

]]> By: Wim ten Brink http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-448 Wim ten Brink Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:19:09 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-448 True, TP5 was just Pascal while TP5.5 and higher introduced the use of objects. However, classes were introduced with Delphi 1 and not before thus I prefer to call TP5.5, TP6, TP7, BP7, TPW1 and TPW1.5 as just Pascal with Objects, while Delphi 1 introduced the real Object Pascal. And it's true that Borland deprecated the name "Object Pascal" since D6 but by introducing "Delphi for PHP", they just continued the name confusion. If they hadn't created the PHP version, I'd just call the language Delphi too. Although, we do also have to consider the current Open-Source Pascal compilers. These are based upon Delphi but won't be able to call the language Delphi. (Trademark issues.) Because those open-source compilers, I'm even more compelled to refer to the language as just "Object Pascal". (But Pascal++ sounds good too.) True, TP5 was just Pascal while TP5.5 and higher introduced the use of objects. However, classes were introduced with Delphi 1 and not before thus I prefer to call TP5.5, TP6, TP7, BP7, TPW1 and TPW1.5 as just Pascal with Objects, while Delphi 1 introduced the real Object Pascal.
And it’s true that Borland deprecated the name “Object Pascal” since D6 but by introducing “Delphi for PHP”, they just continued the name confusion. If they hadn’t created the PHP version, I’d just call the language Delphi too. Although, we do also have to consider the current Open-Source Pascal compilers. These are based upon Delphi but won’t be able to call the language Delphi. (Trademark issues.) Because those open-source compilers, I’m even more compelled to refer to the language as just “Object Pascal”. (But Pascal++ sounds good too.)

]]> By: PRo http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-447 PRo Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:55:08 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-447 The Turbo Pascal 5 product was for the Pascal language. The Turbo Pascal 5.5 product was for the Object Pascal language. Then came Turbo Pascal 6 and 7. What would have been Turbo Pascal 8 was called Delphi 1. It is incorrect to say the compiler became object-oriented at Delphi 1/Turbo Pascal 8 when it actually happened 3 versions earlier. The Turbo Pascal 5 product was for the Pascal language. The Turbo Pascal 5.5 product was for the Object Pascal language. Then came Turbo Pascal 6 and 7. What would have been Turbo Pascal 8 was called Delphi 1. It is incorrect to say the compiler became object-oriented at Delphi 1/Turbo Pascal 8 when it actually happened 3 versions earlier.

]]> By: F.D.Castel http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-446 F.D.Castel Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:10:23 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-446 I would say that half of "Object pascal language" voters were simply unaware that Borland deprecated this form around Delphi 6~7 in favor of "Delphi language". I stick with "Delphi". More simple and explicit. I would say that half of “Object pascal language” voters were simply unaware that Borland deprecated this form around Delphi 6~7 in favor of “Delphi language”. I stick with “Delphi”. More simple and explicit.

]]> By: Stanko Milosev http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-443 Stanko Milosev Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:43:02 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-443 Delphi, for me, because of people. If I said I am programming in Pascal, people will not know what to think, Modula 2 is also one of implementation of Pascal, if I said Delphi, I am more precise, and people will understand me... Delphi, for me, because of people. If I said I am programming in Pascal, people will not know what to think, Modula 2 is also one of implementation of Pascal, if I said Delphi, I am more precise, and people will understand me…

]]> By: Delphi Peak - Delphi Programming » Object Pascal (Delphi) vs Java (C#) http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-442 Delphi Peak - Delphi Programming » Object Pascal (Delphi) vs Java (C#) Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:41:51 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-442 [...] yazılım geliştirmemizi sağlayan IDE nin adı mı, Object Pascal’ın bir dialekti mi tartışmaları süre dursun biz biraz Delphi ile Java arasındaki yazım kurallarını irdeleyelim. Hazır Delphi [...] [...] yazılım geliştirmemizi sağlayan IDE nin adı mı, Object Pascal’ın bir dialekti mi tartışmaları süre dursun biz biraz Delphi ile Java arasındaki yazım kurallarını irdeleyelim. Hazır Delphi [...]

]]> By: Todd Fiske http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-441 Todd Fiske Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:29:42 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-441 The way I remember it, when Delphi 1 came out, the push was to call the language Delphi because Pascal had such a huge stigma attached to it, but it was still called Object Pascal in the documentation. Then when CodeGear came out with Delphi for PHP, the semi-official statement was made that Delphi was the environment and the language was Object Pascal. So it's never been clear, and the constant renaming hints at being ashamed of one or the other. I agree with the statements made here that Object Pascal is the overall language and Delphi refers to a dialect. But looking at web sites and blogs and the general usage over the last several years, the term "Object Pascal" is infrequently seen, and most of us would say "I program in Delphi." The way I remember it, when Delphi 1 came out, the push was to call the language Delphi because Pascal had such a huge stigma attached to it, but it was still called Object Pascal in the documentation. Then when CodeGear came out with Delphi for PHP, the semi-official statement was made that Delphi was the environment and the language was Object Pascal. So it’s never been clear, and the constant renaming hints at being ashamed of one or the other.

I agree with the statements made here that Object Pascal is the overall language and Delphi refers to a dialect. But looking at web sites and blogs and the general usage over the last several years, the term “Object Pascal” is infrequently seen, and most of us would say “I program in Delphi.”

]]> By: Fabricio http://www.delphi.org/2009/02/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-440 Fabricio Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:52:46 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=568#comment-440 Delphi is the IDE + Framework(VCL, RTL, etc). The pillar over which it's built is the Object Pascal language. If course, IMHO. @Mike: Codegear extended the above concept changing the pillar from OP to PHP....... Never used it, don't know how good(or bad?) this IDE for PHP is.... Delphi is the IDE + Framework(VCL, RTL, etc). The pillar over which it’s built is the Object Pascal language.

If course, IMHO.

@Mike: Codegear extended the above concept changing the pillar from OP to PHP……. Never used it, don’t know how good(or bad?) this IDE for PHP is….

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